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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Kiddy » Wednesday 09th 2016f March 2016 07:42:44 PM

I see the SG is backing the conversion of the old Isola plant, in Cumbernauld, to accomodate large scale film sets.
STV gave the statement "from Hollywood to Broadwood", actually, it's in Wardpark.
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by dixie chicken » Wednesday 09th 2016f March 2016 11:43:37 PM

Just heard Ian mcwhirter say that you can't base an economy on one volatile natural resource and that independence was off the agenda for a generation.
Correct, although a bit late in the day for him.

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Kiddy » Thursday 10th 2016f March 2016 06:39:56 PM

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by dixie chicken » Thursday 10th 2016f March 2016 07:21:31 PM

If that was the case, surely the SG would have ensured that it was NOT corrupted?
Am I missing something?

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Gus2 » Thursday 10th 2016f March 2016 08:34:53 PM

dixie chicken wrote:If that was the case, surely the SG would have ensured that it was NOT corrupted?
Am I missing something?
GERS fails to take account of Scottish Goods exported via English Ports Whisky exports alone are worth an estimated 4bln It also does not include income from tourism or Businesses who have there UK HQs in London or elsewhere. In all GERs figures are a complete waste of paper as it is a massively flawed system while not corrupt per say shall we rather say that they were designed to be skewed in a particular way
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Bula Bairn » Thursday 10th 2016f March 2016 09:04:35 PM

Alex Salmond had always said that oil was a 'bonus not basis'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-23389830

Despite all the media hysteria and sudden fall in oil price it has barely registered a 1% move for Scotland.

If only the media applied the same logic to the UK...

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-shattering-of-the-uk/

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Kiddy » Saturday 23rd 2016f April 2016 12:38:12 PM

Any update on the future of the Steelworks, Shipyards & Defence structure being safer with a No vote?
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Gus2 » Saturday 23rd 2016f April 2016 03:31:01 PM

Kiddy wrote:Any update on the future of the Steelworks, Shipyards & Defence structure being safer with a No vote?
Yeah their fcuked
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Kiddy » Saturday 23rd 2016f April 2016 04:17:23 PM

Gus2 wrote:
Kiddy wrote:Any update on the future of the Steelworks, Shipyards & Defence structure being safer with a No vote?
Yeah their fcuked
But, but, the #uniondividend?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-36114069
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/lo ... r-41-years
http://www.cityam.com/237548/tata-scott ... erty-house
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Quidsin » Monday 25th 2016f April 2016 01:37:17 AM

Kiddy wrote:
Gus2 wrote:
Kiddy wrote:Any update on the future of the Steelworks, Shipyards & Defence structure being safer with a No vote?
Yeah their fcuked
But, but, the #uniondividend?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-36114069
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/lo ... r-41-years
http://www.cityam.com/237548/tata-scott ... erty-house
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by John Markie » Friday 06th 2016f May 2016 11:18:05 PM

Just watched the BBC news. It seems that the Tories won the Scottish election (well thats how it appeared on BBC)! I was a bit surprised, as I thought the SNP would stroll it. Ah well, the Beeb is always right, and thats why we are Bitter Together.
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Bula Bairn » Saturday 07th 2016f May 2016 09:38:16 AM

John Markie wrote:Just watched the BBC news. It seems that the Tories won the Scottish election (well thats how it appeared on BBC)! I was a bit surprised, as I thought the SNP would stroll it. Ah well, the Beeb is always right, and thats why we are Bitter Together.
At least their influence is declining as shown by another increased vote for the SNP - Labour pushed into 3rd, Lib Dems to 5th and UKIP disappearing made it all the sweeter.

The tory triumphalism is very short term - they still can't do a single thing but they've now got the responsibility of being the face of the Union in Scotland and will have to defend Cameron / Osborne / Boris at every turn to back it up.

Labour will also have to become an autonomous party to survive so can't keep defending the union when they can't even manage a union within their party... Tick tock

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Dade » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 01:49:32 PM

Here we go again.

Indy Ref part 2. Prepare for another disappointment.

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Bula Bairn » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 02:52:35 PM

Dade wrote:Here we go again.

Indy Ref part 2. Prepare for another disappointment.
I'm not overly optimistic but worth noting that Indy polling support started off at 30% before the 2014 campaign and that's now up to a base of 50%.

Independence is inevitable, whether it's this referendum or the one after. Note, Yes only have to win once whereas No have to win every time...

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Ranaldo Bairn » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 03:03:40 PM

A second NO vote will lead to the abolition of the Scottish Parliament. That will make the only option UDI.

Even Thatcher stated that the only requirement for a UDI was a SNP majority of Scottish MPs!
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by dixie chicken » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 08:28:43 PM

Oh, not again!!!!
Can't stand that damn Sturgeon woman.
Hope we get George Bailey back again.
Absolute madness.
I'm with Sillars, Neil and McCaskill.

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Kiddy » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 08:48:48 PM

dixie chicken wrote:Oh, not again!!!!
Can't stand that damn Sturgeon woman.
Hope we get George Bailey back again.
Absolute madness.
I'm with Sillars, Neil and McCaskill.
What's YOUR Plan B then?

Vauxhall, I'd guess!
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by dixie chicken » Monday 13th 2017f March 2017 09:25:22 PM

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Will take me a while to get up to speed on Politics but YES looks worse than 2014
US frackers are increasing production which will deflate prices so we can forget oil this time.
The GERS subsidy is bigger than 2014 (SG figures)
The UK will be benefitting from Brexit in a couple of years.
The EU is falling apart.
The stock market is at an all time high.
The UK of nations is a great place to live. Why change things?
The SNP have done nothing for Scotland since gaining power.
Education is going down in world rankings.
Anyway, plenty time to get up to speed.

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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by Sir Jones » Tuesday 14th 2017f March 2017 07:59:58 AM

Dixie, if wanting to make a case for "no" then don't use the stock markets to prop the argument. Or, at least, dont refer to the FTSE. It's more of an indicator of international success at the hands of the dreadful Brexit decision than any local to UK business drivers. In short, Brexit has helped internationally trading companies at the expense of localised companies fortunes.
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Re: Post referendum/Scottish politics

Post by dixie chicken » Tuesday 14th 2017f March 2017 10:38:26 AM

Sir Jones wrote:Dixie, if wanting to make a case for "no" then don't use the stock markets to prop the argument. Or, at least, dont refer to the FTSE. It's more of an indicator of international success at the hands of the dreadful Brexit decision than any local to UK business drivers. In short, Brexit has helped internationally trading companies at the expense of localised companies fortunes.
Not true.
The FTSE 250 is also doing well as the 350.
Okay, the international companies are doing exceptionally well due to the low pound, which was overvalued anyway,but most economic indicators are positive such as GDP growth, employment, etc.
The so-called immediate catastrophe after the Brexit vote has not happened as predicted but there will be bumpy times ahead, no doubt.
Scotland is sluggish due to the heavy reliance on the public sector but the SG hasn't helped by making us the most heavily direct taxed part of the UK.

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