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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by yogisbairns » Monday 31st 2019f December 2018 11:12:08 AM

havenbairn wrote:
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As John Markie says the club is at rock bottom.

Everyone who has contributed to this disgraceful state of affairs should do the decent thing and resign.
Never like saying we're rock bottom, because just when you think you are...........
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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Dade » Saturday 05th 2019f January 2019 06:33:45 PM

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There was a time recently that I said we would be fine without Rudden while he away on international duty and a few said I was mental. Hopefully now you can see why I thought the way I did - he's crap.
Wish I’d commented on this previously! ;)

As I’ve said before anyone that can find the back of the net is worth playing, especially if he was able to get a few goals in a team that was awful. Hopefully some of the new players will be able to provide him with more opportunities.

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Sir Jones » Sunday 06th 2019f January 2019 05:17:34 PM

Dade wrote:
Saturday 05th 2019f January 2019 06:33:45 PM
Sir Jones wrote:
Sunday 30th 2018f December 2018 05:16:17 PM
There was a time recently that I said we would be fine without Rudden while he away on international duty and a few said I was mental. Hopefully now you can see why I thought the way I did - he's crap.
Wish I’d commented on this previously! ;)

As I’ve said before anyone that can find the back of the net is worth playing, especially if he was able to get a few goals in a team that was awful. Hopefully some of the new players will be able to provide him with more opportunities.
I stand by the comment to be honest - he isn't missed when not playing.

Rudden isn't quite good enough for me. He'll do for this season mind you as the bar has dropped considerably.
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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Falkirkbairn90 » Sunday 06th 2019f January 2019 10:51:17 PM

Really??? He may not be good enough for you but he is the only thing that has kept us in touch with Patrick and Alloa. If it weren't for him we'd be sinking into the abyss with a serious wall to climb. I'm grateful for him, whether he is good enough or not. The fact that he has scored relatively consistently in a team of duds suggests he is...

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Dade » Sunday 06th 2019f January 2019 11:10:58 PM

Sir Jones wrote:
Sunday 06th 2019f January 2019 05:17:34 PM
Dade wrote:
Saturday 05th 2019f January 2019 06:33:45 PM
Sir Jones wrote:
Sunday 30th 2018f December 2018 05:16:17 PM
There was a time recently that I said we would be fine without Rudden while he away on international duty and a few said I was mental. Hopefully now you can see why I thought the way I did - he's crap.
Wish I’d commented on this previously! ;)

As I’ve said before anyone that can find the back of the net is worth playing, especially if he was able to get a few goals in a team that was awful. Hopefully some of the new players will be able to provide him with more opportunities.
I stand by the comment to be honest - he isn't missed when not playing.

Rudden isn't quite good enough for me. He'll do for this season mind you as the bar has dropped considerably.
The evidence alone would suggest otherwise. Zak Ruddens goals so far have came in these matches...

Ayr 3 Falkirk 2(1)
Alloa 0 Falkirk 2(2)
Dunfermline 0 Falkirk 1(1)
Inverness 2 Falkirk 3(2)
Ayr 0 Falkirk 1(1)

His 7 goals alone have gained us 12 points so far. We only have 16 points and have scored 17 goals and of the 10 goals he didn’t score, he assisted 1. That means he’s scored or assisted in 47% of our total goals.

Also that goal on Saturday may have been easy but his positioning, staying onside, being lively to a shot which should have been easily dealt with and the calmness to finish. I can’t think of any other player that would have got in a position to have that chance. The goalie didn’t even spill it that badly.

And of the 2 games he hasn’t played in, we’ve scored 1 goal.

I think we would miss him!

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Sir Jones » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 01:01:05 PM

It shows how far we've fallen when people vehemently stick up for a player with Ruddens qualities. He's only a fraction better than John Baird!
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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Dade » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 02:26:26 PM

Sir Jones wrote:
Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 01:01:05 PM
It shows how far we've fallen when people vehemently stick up for a player with Ruddens qualities. He's only a fraction better than John Baird!
Possibly but he’s only young so can surely only get better. Regardless context is King and you said we wouldn’t miss him in this current squad. I beg to differ and given the stats I think it’s quite obvious we would.

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by grumpyoldman » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 02:41:19 PM

Sir Jones wrote:
Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 01:01:05 PM
He's only a fraction better than John Baird!
You’ve just taken it too far now😂

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Sir Jones » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 03:15:16 PM

Dade wrote:
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Possibly but he’s only young so can surely only get better.
Didn't work out that way for Freddy Adu!

Context is important though. I originally said we wouldn't miss him during the international and cup games. I think that was Partick at home (where we absolutely should've won and played very well) and then Stenny which was a horsing. Debatable whether he would've made a difference in either but in short, I don't think we missed him at all. And the least said about his performance against the tinks which dredged this all back up the better. Abysmal!

I'll be pretty disappointed if he remains our #1 attacking option at the end of the transfer window. Must do better.
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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by rusty_nail » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 05:42:14 PM

Sir Jones wrote:
Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 03:15:16 PM
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I'll be pretty disappointed if he remains our #1 attacking option at the end of the transfer window. Must do better.
I agree he’s no Stokes or Farid but so poor were the others (namely Lewis and Haber) that had we been without him completely I agree with Dade we’d be much worse off than where we are now.

I do also agree that we need to find others who can help or replace him as when he does have off games he does seem to become anonymous and found wanting.

To be expected as he is operating under difficult circumstances without a lot of experience.
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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Dade » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 08:12:30 PM

Sir Jones wrote:
Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 03:15:16 PM


Didn't work out that way for Freddy Adu!

Context is important though. I originally said we wouldn't miss him during the international and cup games. I think that was Partick at home (where we absolutely should've won and played very well) and then Stenny which was a horsing. Debatable whether he would've made a difference in either but in short, I don't think we missed him at all. And the least said about his performance against the tinks which dredged this all back up the better. Abysmal!

I'll be pretty disappointed if he remains our #1 attacking option at the end of the transfer window. Must do better.
Didn’t work out that way for many people but scoring 7 goals in this league in such a shoot team is a good start for any teenager. Lee Miller managed 11 in his first season. Maybe he can emulate that.

Anyway your Partick argument almost underlies my point. We should have won but weren’t able to capitalise on our opportunities? I don’t think it’s too debatle that he could’ve made the difference, given his record thus far.

If there is better scorers available then by all means we should get them but 7 goals in 15 is a pretty good return for any striker in this league.

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Pete » Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 08:42:09 PM

What chances?!?!?

We had two shots on target all game

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Re: FFC v DAFC 29/12

Post by Dade » Tuesday 08th 2019f January 2019 03:27:06 PM

Pete wrote:
Monday 07th 2019f January 2019 08:42:09 PM
What chances?!?!?

We had two shots on target all game
Wasn’t at the game so was just going by what Jones said but that doesn’t sound like good support for saying we should’ve won that game.

In any case the argument was whether we would miss Rudden. Had he not played vs Ayr then I doubt that spill would have even counted as a chance as any other player would be too slow to react or in a bad position so who knows had he played vs Partick we might have carved out more chances.

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