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Re: Who should be next manager?

Post by kennyboy » Saturday 30th 2017f September 2017 09:27:19 PM

Hagi and Mackenzie were in the frame before Houston got the job the last time. Hagi and Mackenzie both have uefa badges. There was a meeting in a hotel outside falkirk with a a supporter with money and a board member. It just so happens I was there for a wedding. I don't have any news on the posistion this time. The four were there having lunch.

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Post by Falkirkfan6871 » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 03:40:26 PM

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41485890

Informal talks, apparently
Not sure about this one seems a bit unimaginative choice of next manager. Does have experience though. Has won a cup something the club lacked a few years ago so might be helpful for future cup runs.

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Post by Romaines of the Day » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 03:44:06 PM

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/foot ... s-11275649

Another interesting one but then this might be also another name thrown out to make a story.

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Post by Dade » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 03:53:16 PM

He ticks a lot of boxes in that he has experience managing in this division. Took Dunfermline up, kept Ross County in top league, made top 6 and won a National Cup. However my first option would still be Hartley. Something about McIntyre that I’m not so keen on. Not sure why.

To look at any negatives he took 3 seasons to get Dunfermline up and was backed by a large budget at County. That’s clutching at straws but again, we need someone to hit the ground running and I would trust Hartley to do that more than McIntyre.

Interesting to hear from those who detest Hartley if a man who played for and managed our biggest rivals is treated with the same contempt?

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Post by Honest Al » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 06:07:01 PM

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He ticks a lot of boxes in that he has experience managing in this division. Took Dunfermline up, kept Ross County in top league, made top 6 and won a National Cup. However my first option would still be Hartley. Something about McIntyre that I’m not so keen on. Not sure why.

To look at any negatives he took 3 seasons to get Dunfermline up and was backed by a large budget at County. That’s clutching at straws but again, we need someone to hit the ground running and I would trust Hartley to do that more than McIntyre.

Interesting to hear from those who detest Hartley if a man who played for and managed our biggest rivals is treated with the same contempt?
No hatred at all of McIntyre, just that (agreeing with you Dade) he's a bit underwhelming. Taking a manager who's just been sacked by a club currently slightly better than ourselves, doesn't fill me with confidence that he can lead the team to promotion (in the next season or so).
Yeah, Hartley is a hard guy to suddenly take to, after years of disliking him - mainly due to his arrogance on and off the park as a player.
I'm in the Martin Rennie/David Moss/Brian Kerr/Ian Murray camp I guess........await the BoD explanation as to which of the job advert's 'must haves' the likes of McIntyre and Hartley meet.

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Post by Sir Jones » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 07:51:27 PM

In my books, Hartley manages to sit above McIntyre but I wouldn't be happy with either to be honest. Neither would be disastrous appointments but both would be incredibly lazy appointments.
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Post by Olaf Thom » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:24:39 PM

McIntyre is worse than Hartley. Hartley had Alloa punching well above their weight.

Both aren't good enough.
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Post by Dade » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:36:55 PM

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In my books, Hartley manages to sit above McIntyre but I wouldn't be happy with either to be honest. Neither would be disastrous appointments but both would be incredibly lazy appointments.
Would it help if I told you I’ve met Hartley a few times and he seems like a nice guy! 😉

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Post by Dade » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:38:10 PM

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McIntyre is worse than Hartley. Hartley had Alloa punching well above their weight.

Both aren't good enough.
Sorry but why is Hartley not good enough and again who would you like us to get that’s been linked?

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Post by Falkirkbairn90 » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:47:42 PM

Olaf Thom wrote:
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McIntyre is worse than Hartley. Hartley had Alloa punching well above their weight.

Both aren't good enough.
So Hartley has Alloa punching above their weight. 3 promotions in 3 consecutive seasons and a top 6 finish in his 4th season. You are right enough Olaf. He's not good enough... let's go for a Lithuanian guy or someone from Moldova :hammer: :hammer:
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Post by AL_bairn » Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:53:35 PM

Dade wrote:
Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:38:10 PM
Olaf Thom wrote:
Tuesday 03rd 2017f October 2017 10:24:39 PM
McIntyre is worse than Hartley. Hartley had Alloa punching well above their weight.

Both aren't good enough.
Sorry but why is Hartley not good enough and again who would you like us to get that’s been linked?
I wouldn't waste you're time mate. Olaf is a serial moaner who won't be happy with any appointment we make. He hasn't put his neck on the line just incase it actually happened. He then wouldn't be able to moan like ****.

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Post by Olaf Thom » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 08:34:15 AM

Paul Hartley lost his job after 7 straight defeats and Dundee in the relegation play off place.
He doesn't rate our highest paid player, as he hardly played him.
He's put on a lot of beef recently so lacks discipline
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Post by AL_bairn » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 09:14:29 AM

So Olaf's remit is to go for a manager that has never been sacked before. That narrows the pool down considerably.

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Post by AL_bairn » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 09:35:23 AM

You do know Littbarski was sacked as Vaduz manager Olaf? Would you still take him as our manager?

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Post by Olaf Thom » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 10:56:47 AM

AL_bairn wrote:
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So Olaf's remit is to go for a manager that has never been sacked before. That narrows the pool down considerably.
No, its a manager that hasn't been beaten 7 games in a row, That is entirely different from not winning in 7 games, takes a special talent to lose 7 games in a row.

I would take Littbarksi and possibly even Redfearn
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Post by AL_bairn » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 11:04:12 AM

Olaf Thom wrote:
Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 10:56:47 AM
AL_bairn wrote:
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So Olaf's remit is to go for a manager that has never been sacked before. That narrows the pool down considerably.
No, its a manager that hasn't been beaten 7 games in a row, That is entirely different from not winning in 7 games, takes a special talent to lose 7 games in a row.

I would take Littbarksi and possibly even Redfearn
Fair enough I just thought I'd ask. It is a good point you raise about Hartley and Loy. I wonder if that would influence the boards decision.

Redfearn I agree with although he done terrible at Rotherham, possibly beating Hartley's record of more than 7 defeats in a row. He done well at Leeds though before that Italian idiot sacked him. I'm sure I read he done really well with Leeds youth as well so could be a good fit for us.

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Post by Olaf Thom » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 11:14:06 AM

Redfearn had a win ratio of 23% at Rotherham, not good until you compare his record to Alan Stubbs who had a win ratio of 7%
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Post by AL_bairn » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 12:19:39 PM

Olaf Thom wrote:
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Redfearn had a win ratio of 23% at Rotherham, not good until you compare his record to Alan Stubbs who had a win ratio of 7%
You can't say 23% is ok just because another mangaers win percentage was atrocious. 23% is a poor return.

Hartley's overall record at Dundee was 33% which is pretty average at best. I think he would do ok but something tells me we could do better.

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Re: Who should be next manager?

Post by Olaf Thom » Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 12:38:02 PM

AL_bairn wrote:
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Olaf Thom wrote:
Wednesday 04th 2017f October 2017 11:14:06 AM
Redfearn had a win ratio of 23% at Rotherham, not good until you compare his record to Alan Stubbs who had a win ratio of 7%
You can't say 23% is ok just because another mangaers win percentage was atrocious. 23% is a poor return.

Hartley's overall record at Dundee was 33% which is pretty average at best. I think he would do ok but something tells me we could do better.
Not good is not the same as ok, I was just showing how Redfearn could be rated 3 times better than Stubbs under the same conditions. You cannot throw Hartley into that mix as he has only managed in crappy Scottish football.
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