falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

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falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Bridge of Allan Bairn » Thursday 22nd 2018f February 2018 04:47:27 PM

tricky game as it always is v the sons. they have some new players and might be buoyed by the challenge cup final. real six pointer this, we win and there is a significant gap, we lose and it's 6 points but they have 2 games in hand.

should be a great crowd with the bring a friend for a tenner and the 2000 free tickets so hope we put on a show and get some of them to come back.

jakubiak scoring a league goal every 75 minutes so hoping he keeps it up but time for loy Nelson or ohara to start helping him out.

think it will be close 2-1 falkirk
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Duncan Freemason » Friday 23rd 2018f February 2018 02:16:44 PM

If the big crowd really happens, then it would be amazing if the team could turn in Dundee United game performance.
Too many times in recent years we have had great attendances for games again Dunfermline and St Mirren and we’ve blown it spectacularly.
If Hartley can get them totally focused, and we really go for them from the first whistle then who knows. An early goal or two, and I reckon a few Dumbarton players heads will go down, and they just might accept the play offs as their destiny.
I genuinely see this as having season defining potential. A convincing win, and thereafter we can indulge in some stress free fun playing mayhem with the top four hopefuls dreams.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Creative Redemption » Friday 23rd 2018f February 2018 02:22:55 PM

it will be a tough game, but thats the level we are at.
After 2 weeks of playing on paddy fields, it will be good to get back to a playing surface the players can trust themselves on.
I reckon 2:0 in a hard fought game.
Longridge and Sibbs with the goals.
Surely the Yak has scored enough goals in consecutive games that it cant continue this week again.
Here comes the doom.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Duncan Freemason » Friday 23rd 2018f February 2018 02:56:32 PM

Is he approaching Gerry McCoys post war record?

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Olaf Thom » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 12:02:31 AM

Big Crowd, parades of youngsters, can only mean one thing - We screw it up.

It’s a sad day when I’m concerned about playing a team that contains David Smith and that big Coo Nade!
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by AL_bairn » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 09:49:36 AM

I'd settle for a scrappy 1-0 win which would probably mean safety. If someone offered us that at the start of January we would have all took it.

Would be nice to see a 3-0 win though and a good all round performance. Although with that defence I can't see Dumbarton not scoring today!

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by kemlinbairn » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 10:30:19 AM

A load of noisy weans, sitting there freezing cold. Crossing our fingers for a performance and hopefully a win.
What's not to like :lol:

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Bridge of Allan Bairn » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 07:01:04 PM

hit the woodwork 4 times in one half three times on the very inside of it and a decent penalty waved away. it's the kind if game 99/100 you'd win easily. just one of those days.

sibbald best for me and longridge poorest.

think that's any slim chance of promotion play offs gone and mid table looks our best finish now
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Olaf Thom » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 07:15:10 PM

First half we were good and unlucky with a number of decent attempts on goal, BUT you cannot let the fact we hit the woodwork 4 times mask that utterly appalling 2nd half - it really was an utter disgrace!

We have decent forwards but they aren’t anywhere near the box for the most part, Alex has great feet, pace and strength - why not give him the ball in the box not 30 yards from goal or out wide, same with Nelson he has nice touches and skill. The reason why we can’t is we have a pathetic excuse for a midfield McKee, Taiwo, Sibbald and Longridge are SO one paced, gave no drive and have an uncanny ability to pass the ball in behind players not in front of them.

I know Taiwo is seen as some sort of Saint because he gets stuck in, unlike most of our players, but he is poor, he’s a trier but he’s not strong enough, quick enough or fit enough.

Longridge is exactly what Hamilton fans said he was 1 good game in 6, cannot have that, cannot sign him for next season.

Really brassed off at the end, the announcer thanking the fans who paid feck all for their attendance, but not the rest of us who pay cold hard cash to be served up utter dross for most of the season.
Yet more discounts available for the freebie folk next game, our club really don’t value our product or the fans who pay cash every week. Keep up performances like today and they better hope the freebie folk replace those who are sick to the back teeth watching pish week in, week out.
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Habib Utak Al Hansi » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 07:43:17 PM

Should have been goals up at half-time. Awful second half, reminiscent of many a performance under Houston. Totally lacking in any pace, width, creativity, urgency, drive. Beyond dire. Had their boy got his shot on target at the end, we'd have lost. No idea what Hazard was doing there.

It's also quite noticeable that we now have almost nothing on the bench to even attempt to change or win a game. Two centre-halves, the impostor Harris, Ryan Blair, who appears an utterly pointless signing, and Loy, who is not even a pale imitation the player of 2 or 3 years ago. I'd have even preferred to see someone like Kieran Dunne for the last 15 or 20 minutes, but I presume we have seen the last of him.

Dumarton looked awful, and we should have enough to finish above them, but that is about the limit of our capabilities. We haven't beaten them in three attempts or scored a goal from open play this season. Today was confirmation, were any needed, that if we are looking to do anything at all next season, there will have to be a huge turnover in the summer, a virtual clearout and a massive upgrade on the quality we have at the moment. We are light years away from where we should be. Not good enough.
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by dixie chicken » Saturday 24th 2018f February 2018 07:48:02 PM

Very frustrating indeed!!
Great first half but that second half was poor and I could see signs of the PH era reappearing.
I could even see them nicking it at the end.
Best for us we’re Robson,McGhee,Taiwo (in his specialist role), Nelson and to a lesser extent Sibbald,Jacubiak and McKee.
Longridge was terrible. Nothing came off and I fail to see the point of bringing on Loy. Useless as ever.
I do see the seeds of a half decent side but there needs to be a further big clear out in May.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Sir Jones » Sunday 25th 2018f February 2018 09:23:10 AM

Still too many lazy passengers. There was a moment in the middle of the second half that saw us defending a light hearted Dumbarton attack. They maybe had 2 players, 3 max running at our box. At the point of dispossessing the lad a short distance outside our box I counted 7 of our players within 10 yards of each other. That was bad enough but we still decided to long ball it up the park to The Jak. What was the f*cking point?! That was a common theme yesterday. Countless times Sibbald would be swarmed by 3 Dumbarton players. He'd wriggle free, find a pass but we somehow still didn't have a man free - seriously?!

Anyway, who couldn't see 0-0 coming after we hit the woodwork for the 3rd and 4th time?! Could see it coming a mile off. Nice to be creating chances in the first half but counts for f*ck all if you don't put the ball in the net.

We'll avoid the bottom two spots easily enough in the end but we really should have been knocking on the door of 4th by now in my opinion. Now, we'll e doing well to finish 6th. Hartley has a massive job on his hands for next season.
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by chippo1876 » Sunday 25th 2018f February 2018 01:48:29 PM

you could almost sense the disbelief after the 1st half as they seemed to come out in the 2nd thinking it didn't matter what they did they weren't going to score. anything above 8th place is a bonus in my opinion.as already said another clear out required in the summer to prepare for next season .

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Brian Scrimegour » Monday 26th 2018f February 2018 10:34:44 AM

Not enough winners in the side thats my main issue. The likes of vaulks,Alston and leahy were not just good footballers they also drove the side on at every opportunity and could produce that bit of magic that could win you the match. We're far too airy fairy with wee flicks and pirouettes instead of just putting in some decent hard tackle, winning the ball and heading for goal. Apart from Taiwo noone else in our midfield is really willing to get the sleeves rolled up and sticking more and more attacking players on is a waste of time if none of them fancy getting into the bloomin box. Why the feck is harris even on the bench. I'd much rather see Dunne on their instead of that shitebag.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Ricey » Monday 26th 2018f February 2018 11:21:56 PM

As I keep saying I’m not sure Hartleys signings are up to much. Tumulty is very poor, Blair and welsh are bemusing, nelson struggles in front of goal,longridge is inconsistent. That leaves Hazard whom I’m yet to decide on and the good signings in Yak and Robson.

The football is murder to watch and I for one am disappointed. However we will see how things go next year but one things for sure we better see the benefit of this £340k academy saving Campbell and Lang promised or they should be chased from the club.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Sir Jones » Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 07:51:19 AM

The football is largely fine for me - we just don't have the personnel to play the way Hartley wants us to play from the looks of things. Of course, you can argue that a manager should fit a formation round his squad but I think we're at a stage that the reverse is acceptable when a clean out is still required.

Still too soon to be definitive on Tumilty and Nelson. Both have put in more good than cr@p performances to date though so I still see them as positive signings. Having said that, Tumilty in recent weeks has been pish.

We'll likely know very early in Summer how next season will go (if we can't tell already...). If Hartley is still fannying around with signings into August then it'll be another mid table pile of sh1te.
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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Duncan Freemason » Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 10:10:16 AM

I might be wrong here, but if our much needed clear out does happen, then it’ll involve the players who were here prior to Hartley’s arrival.
Of the existing first team squad, whose position is really under threat?

Keepers: All must be at risk. We don’t have a decent dependable one on the books.
Harris: Probably number one on everyone’s hit list.
Muirhead: I rate his work rate and commitment, but the entire stadium stops breathing when he has the ball at his feet. Not exactly confidence inspiring.
Grant: What the hell happened? Is it physical impairment, or all in his head?
Watson: Sea anchor surely.
Kidd: One step forward, one step backwards. Just treading water, and is what we have seen about as good as it’s ever going to get?
McKee: Now seems to have gotten himself drawn into the same spiral as Austen and Hippolyte.
Shepherd: Has to have run out of chances. Looking more and more like Stirling Albion/Warriors material.
O’Hara: Early promise now seems to have stalled.
Loy: No words needed.

Would that be too severe? Could PH rebuild in one close season with only a core crew of Sibbald (who wants away), Taiwo, Nelson, Robson, Yak and Longridge? Do those six have that sense of a Championship winning side about them? Certainly doesn’t leave much space for anyone else under six feet tall.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Ricey » Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 11:28:13 AM

You’ve got to add to that list the loan players and Welsh. Wages will also be freed up as we won’t have the 20s. On the keepers we currently have Hazard, Mitchell, Thomson, Mutch and Young which is utterly ludicrous for a club of our size. Expect Mitchell to be given a chance and the rest to be released in the summer (Hazard returning to Celtic). For me the list of players I wouldn’t want to leave gets smaller and smaller.

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Taiwo
Jonny Mitchell
Yak
Robson

Hartley needs to get recruitment right in the summer and if we are to be promoted we need better than the likes of tumilty

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by Brian Scrimegour » Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 12:44:50 PM

At least if Sibbald leaves we'll get money for him which you'd hope will be invested back in the squad.

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Re: falkirk v Dumbarton 24th Feb 2018

Post by ellonbairn » Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 02:22:48 PM

Ricey wrote:
Tuesday 27th 2018f February 2018 11:28:13 AM
You’ve got to add to that list the loan players and Welsh. Wages will also be freed up as we won’t have the 20s. On the keepers we currently have Hazard, Mitchell, Thomson, Mutch and Young which is utterly ludicrous for a club of our size. Expect Mitchell to be given a chance and the rest to be released in the summer (Hazard returning to Celtic). For me the list of players I wouldn’t want to leave gets smaller and smaller.

Sibbald
Taiwo
Jonny Mitchell
Yak
Robson

Hartley needs to get recruitment right in the summer and if we are to be promoted we need better than the likes of tumilty
Are the Yak and Robson not loan players as well? - so add Sibbald as leaving and we are left with Taiwo and Jonny Mitchell!

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